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I have written down the relevant parts of Gale's interview yesterday with Rachel McDonald and Josh Pence of "Thirst" after listening to my download from it. This is NOT beta'd and parts here and there are not decipherable. But I thought for what's it worth some of my readers might enjoy reading the parts that especially had to do with Gale and QAF, so here it is.:) I did not include a few parts that were not related to him, BTW. (Kimberly)

D: All right, everybody, hello, welcome, to OnAirwithDouglas. This is your host, Doug. Today is Thursday, January 09. Our second show of the year; it's actually almost our 300th show. So what better way to celebrate that than to have some amazing guests on tonight?

First off, I want to thank everybody who has been tweeting like crazy about the Thirst Kickstarter program by the way. We are really working hard on that; there's 48 hours left, and if you go to "Thirstfilm.com" and click on "Kickstarter," you can donate anything you've got. A dollar, ten dollars, ninety dollars, whatever you want to donate. We want to try and get this met before the next 48 hours.

So without further ado, let's mention who we have on the show today. We have the Director, Rachel McDonald. Welcome, Rachel.

R: Hello. Thank you, Doug, thanks for having us.

D: Of course, no, not a problem. How are you doing today?

R: I'm doing well; we're happy to be here, and thank you for all the great promotion of our Kickstarter.

D: Oh, no problem. We're going to make it. I'm going to, whatever I do, I'll even go on a street corner and sell myself. I'll do whatever it takes.

R: (Laughs)

D: (Unintelligible)

R: Really no need for that...

D: I would only make a dollar ninety-nine anyway, so that's okay.

R: (Laughs)

D: And then we have the two stars from Thirst. We have Josh Pence. Welcome, Josh.

J: Hi. Thanks very much for having us.

D: No problem. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you all, actually, to coordinate this all together.
And, of course, the one and only Gale Harold. Welcome, Gale.

Gale: Hello, how are you, Douglas. Thank you for having us. We're very happy to be here. (Says with 'uppity accent,' making others laugh)

D: (Laughing) You're welcome. Thank you for that accent. That's awesome. Uh...

R: That's how he really talks.

D: Oh, really?

Gale: If I can say a few words, they come out different every time. I can't help it (Now speaking with another accent, kind of like Forrest Gump).

D: (Laughs as Josh says something in background about Gale being amusing.) I'll just go with the flow; I'll just let you be whoever you want to be. Rachel, for those that are listening that are not familiar with project, and the film, and people that are on with us, tell us a little bit about the film and how it came to be.
R: Sure. Yes. Thirst is a short film - we're calling it a modern fable - and it's a story that follows a young man, played by Josh Pence, Billy, who's struggling to, struggling with his non (?)-addictions and his emotional battles. And he finds temporary work in a derelict bar. And he's just confronted with a really disturbing, potential future. And I guess the film just takes an unconventional approach to telling a story about an addiction and, without telling too much cause the film might, is a 25-minute film, it just shows the audience pain, the pain and hopelessness that comes from lives that are afflicted with addiction. Yeah, with the, we had some incredible, incredible performances with this phenomenal cast as you can imagine, and they just brought so much to helping us tell a really powerful story. So...that's a little bit about it.

D: Oh. Okay. Well, how, you know, about getting together a cast for this project, you got both Josh and Gale, and some others, and you got Melanie Griffith, who I haven't seen for a long time. So how did she part of this project?

R: Yeah! Uh, well, we had a really incredible casting director. Anya Hare (?), who really did a fantastic job of getting our script out to the cast. So we were very interested in, and we were lucky enough to cast everyone that we had intended for the roles, so we got very lucky. As far as Melanie, Anya got her the script through her agent, and we were so amazed at how quickly she got back to us. She read the script within a day or two, took a meeting with us, with the writer and myself, we told her about the project, what it meant to us, and she jumped right on board. And, um, it was pretty much the same way with everyone involved. I think the script - it was so beautifully written by Michael Albanese - just resonated with a lot of people. So that's kind of how our cast came together.

D: Oh, Okay. Uh, I'm really excited, cause you guys just released the trailer, I think it was last week, so, uh, we now have a little glimpse of what's to come, and you say it's a 25-minute short film...Pending that, once you get the rest of the funding down, you know, when will us fans be able to view it and to see it?

R: Uh, well, we're hitting the festival circuit. So we're hoping that you'll be able to see it in a film festival very soon. I can't really say which, you know...but hopefully sometime this summer.

D: That'd be great. Well, if it's anywhere near LA, then I'll definitely come support you and see it cause that'd be fantastic...

R: Great. We'll do some screenings as well around Los Angeles and New York. So we'll definitely keep you posted on that.

D: That is perfect; awesome. Uh, tell me a little bit, without, you know we can't give away too much, but tell me a little bit about your character. What your interpretation of the character is?

J: Uh. Sure. Um, sorry, hold on one second, I'm just dropping my dog off (laughs). I apologize; I have to get to the airport (laughs again). Uh, okay. Living life. Um, Billy is somebody that I think is kind of mired in his own, his own mess, so to speak. He's, you know, he's definitely drowning in his addiction, but I think more than that. I think really often addiction is a disease, many addictions are diseases. Sort of the underlying factors that are leading to that that need to be dealt with, and he sort of (unintelligible) himself off from the world, and, you know, I think when you approach a character like that that you just, for me, you know, it's tapping into my own experiences with that. And my own tendency to kind of want to isolate at times, and I think Billy is in that place where he needs a community. And he's really, really desperate to find somebody that he can connect to, and I think that's, and you know, he, he comes to this bar because he's in need of work or definitely practical elements, but when you see him in this realm, and in this atmosphere, he is definitely dealing with the need to connect to people, and you see that through his interactions with Melanie character and with Gale's character and in both cases and you know, he is in judgment of very much so of the people around him. He doesn't think that he's like them, and he, you know, sort of looks down on them. And there's a very interesting scene that Gale and I have together that was, you know, fun to shoot and work on together. I mean, everything on this happened pretty quickly for me. I got cast in four days out of us going to camera, so I had minimal interaction. But I had the pleasure of sitting down with Gale and with Melanie and getting to know them, and it was really a wonderful time.

D: Hm.. Uh, okay. Uh...

R: And I just wanted to add to what Josh was talking about, if I may quickly. With his relationship to, with the patrons in the bar, there's also just a beautiful relationship that evolves between his character and Melanie's that brings on some more empathy, uh, that develops throughout the film.

D: Um, yeah, you, you can see that through the trailer, too; just a brief glimpse...

R: Yeah

D: ...Of the bond that they have.

R: Yeah, their chemistry is just really magnificent on screen. It's incredible.

D: Yeah...

J: Uh, you never know what's going to happen until the day, and I'm sure we've all experienced that from in front of and behind the camera. Sort of, things just kind of happen, and I think she and I really connected on screen and off-screen as actors and as people and I think that just kinds of funnels into this relationship that is about a lot more than any physical need, or you know, there's a very deep-seated, emotional connection there, and it's sort of interesting to watch it develop. It'd be fun to play with it more, honestly.

D: Yeah. Well, I definitely can't wait to see it. I recall you being part of a social network, and we didn't get to see much of your face.

J: Uh, huh. Yeah, I'm the man behind the mask. Yes.

D: (Laughs) Man behind the mask. Well, it'd be kind of nice to see a little bit of , uh, a different view of you per se. Now, uh, Gale. Tell us a little bit about your character in Thirst.

Gale: My character, John, comes into the bar where Billy's working, and seems to be, perhaps a regular, or someone with something going on inside that room that's not just about drinking. That's how it seems to me. Uh, I mean as a device, I think he's very effective. And that's what excited me about what Michael had written, 'cause I think everybody, (intelligible) family or friends, knows how easy it is to get lost no matter where you get lost. And to watch, you know, what Josh was saying trying to connect. A young man, he's struggling to find some place, and as good writing does, his place that he finds, he thinks a way out is in the middle of where he should not be, I mean theoretically. And that idea that he's trying to connect while simultaneously separating himself internally from what's going on around him. Um, John, my character, he's sort of - what would you call him? He's sort of like, um, he's sort of a philosophical counterpoint. And you're not really sure why's he's saying the things that he's saying. They're so pointed; they seem very direct, almost as if he knows more about Billy...

R: He's a messenger.

Gale: He's a messenger; yeah, he's sort of the, he's an Eagle of Death Metal. No, he's not. Uh..

R: (Laughs)

Gale: He, uh, he does say things, he does say things that seem to be coming from, uh, a special perspective. And he confronts Billy in sort of a (unintelligible) way and his reactions that, very neutral things that comes out of Billy's mouth. Why would he respond the way that he does? For me, that's fascinating, because, it's somewhat Greek, you know, he's the chorus there, he's saying things that don't make sense, they do make sense, they're before and after the moment. Very confrontational. I don't know, is he a drug dealer? Is he the DAA officer? Who knows, what's he doing there? So that's kind of how I see him.

R: Yeah, he's very prophetic in the way he speaks to Billy, and it's really, really interesting the way that it played out between the two of them.

J: Yeah, it's (unintelligible), too, because he's, I think that Billy's projected on him, right off the bat. And in the beginning interactions they have he's kind of, that Gale's character's not like everybody else in there, and he kind of tries to salvage this rapport, and that we are the normal ones, surrounded by all these kinds of Bazaaro's, he's very quick - Gale's character - to point out that, um, you know, he's like, well, you know, he kind of calls Billy out right away. It's like, well, what are you, are you normal? Like, really? We're all here for a reason. And I think that's why Billy kind of realizes that, you know, he, it's sort of a bit of a wakeup call, and that he is in there for a reason. I think it opens him up to experience, true experience that whole chapter of his life in a way, and he kind of begins to change.

D: I can't wait to see the final product. And so many people have been tweeting, you know, questions and such. And I just want to read a couple questions. One is for you, Rachel. What is your opinion of the deepest meaning of the word 'thirst?'

R: Sorry. Sorry, it cut out; I couldn't hear you. Can you repeat the question, please? I think Gale was sneezing, or blowing his nose...(unintelligible)

Gale: Bless you.

J: Gesundheidt.

R: What is my interpretation of the word 'thirst?'

D: Yes.

R: Um, it's really interesting. Thirst - the title for this film - it, it really evolved over the last year, and I think that thirst just means so many things, especially when it comes to addiction. Um, there's a longing for something, a need, you think there's this feeling of a need for something to quench something, that thirst. And the actual title came, was inspired by, a song that a friend of mine who passed away almost two years ago now. Um, Evan Bliss. Wrote a song called "Thirsty." It actually deals with addiction. It's a beautiful track. So I was listening to that song while we were throwing around titles for the film, and it just seemed very appropriate.

D: And who is it by?

R: His name's Evan Bliss. B-L-I-S-S.

D: And is that available on I-Tunes or something for fans to listen to?

R: Yes.

D. Okay.

R: It is on I-Tunes. Yes, check it out.

D: Yes, definitely check it out, for sure. Okay, that was from @eppinineseconds (?) And I just want to let you guys know that I've been doing the show for two years. I've had almost 300 different celebrities on from all different kinds of genres, and this is the most international show I've had. Because we have people listening from Finland, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Canada, Wales, and even in Australia, and Mexico. And, of course, United States.

J: Wow.

R: Wow, that's amazing.

D: So they're either getting up early, or staying up late, setting their alarm. They've all been very excited about this.

R: Thank you all so much for listening!

J: Yeah, thank you for tuning in.

D: And, so, um, you know, I'm just like overwhelmed; I've never had such diverse listeners before. You know, normally it's just us here in the States. So thank you all out there for listening. Um, let's see what else is next.

J: Uh, just touching on that. I think that speaks to how universal this is. You know, I think these very, very basic human needs transcend language, and (unintelligible). This thirst, that need to connect with people and the themes of addiction and loneliness and what these people are doing with that stuff that everyone can relate to no matter where you come from. It's kind of interesting, you know?

D: Yes, it's an unfortunate thing that; you know, addiction runs in my family. No myself, but it runs in my family, so I've been around it almost for 40 years now. I think anybody and everybody just can be, like you said, like six degrees of separation away from somebody who's had the experience, so I'm, so this is going to hit home to a lot of people, I’m sure.

J: Yeah, and I think for me, as an actor, a storyteller, and probably for Rachel and Gale - can't speak for you guys - I think for a lot of us we make, part of the beauty of a film for me is to be able to connect with an audience, and have people share in a common experience and it brings us all closer together. You don't feel so lost.

D: Go ahead, Rachel.

R: Absolutely. I feel the same way, and to further what you were saying, Douglas, we found even with our crew - there's such an incredible cast and crew on this film - and I couldn't believe how many people personally came up to me, from the crew, and on the cast and said, you know, that they had a personal story. That they had a family member or friend that was afflicted with addiction, and, um, how this script really resonated with them. Which is so nice, and rewarding to work on a project where everyone feels like they're telling a story that's important. I just thought that that was fantastic. Uh, maybe fantastic isn't the right word, because it's very sad. But I think it's fantastic that we were all working together to tell a story that maybe needs to be told a little more often.

D: Yeah. Most definitely. Uh, here's another Twitter question. To any of you. Since the film is about the human condition, what would they consider their extremes? This is from Elaine.
(Talking in background)

D: I’m not sure exactly what that meant. I just read it, I'm not sure..

R: Sorry.

D: Yeah, since the film is about the human condition, what would they consider their extreme? So, I'm not sure...

J: Our characters or us...?

D: I believe the characters.

J: I mean, I think one of the extremes, in kind of circling back to your question, and with the title, too, I think it relates to this question, I mean thirst to me it's a need, it's a craving, but it comes from, it comes from dry, dry mouth, and dry, arid. Lack of life. To be one end of that extreme would just be the total absence of that sustenance, liquid water, life. So in one sense it IS interesting, because I think for me, look at Billy. He, he is so thirsty in a sense. He's also kind of drowning in another. And he's kind of on this cusp, this precipice of life and death. He's very much been confronting his own mortality, but I think it's, the other side of that, you know, there's sort of this dualistic nature of wanting to live so much, you know, so there's this extreme of wanting to end his life, and then this extreme of feeling so, (unintelligible) deep, burning need to live. You know? That it's like, it's very, you know? And I think that's how life is. Try to find - well, I do, anyway - as I get old, a middle ground, more moderate. But at this point in his life, like many of us do, we're really testing extremes. Where we go from total dry to drowning in something the next minute. And I think everywhere in between.

D: Absolutely. Very good answer. And she just happened to pop up with another question, so this is for Gale. Ask Gale how is writing is, he's been working on screenplays. I was curious how was going for him, and we all miss him.

R and G: (laugh)

Gale: Uh, I miss them, too. For me - as far as this project is concerned - and writing, um, I think getting to know Michael, um. He and I met by happenstance years ago in kind of a similar situation (laughs) that takes place in the script itself. And I'll let that reveal itself as time passes. But working on the idea that the title of the film sort of raises thirst, like Josh was saying, you know? You're gonna provide your air, but you need something more, and then you take on what you need, but you think that you need. And that sort of makes it worse. I mean, there's really simple metaphor for that. You wake up with a hangover, right? You've exhausted all of your body's ability to replenish yourself, because of all the alcohol's that gone through your bloodstream, and then all the air is passing in and out of you. Um, and I think that it's kind of billed back to the other question and bring in the extreme part. I like to think that part of what John is doing there is to, um, kind of reminds Billy that once you' re in a certain state, that's where you are potentially forever. And, there's, you can be thirsty for some way to forget about your problems, and it's another irony of the state. You may be lonely, you may be miserable, you may be sad, you may be heartbroken, and you want something to make that better. But you can substitute something maybe not better by taking something that's going to make it worse. But then you get on that wheel, and you can't get off. And in an odd way, John is sort of, he's um, in a very crass way, he's like (unintelligible) mistakes by acknowledging how bad it is. Um, and as far as writing goes...just trying to find a way to bring that through? Actually, Michael has set that up in a very clear way. And, because it's a short film, it's somewhat minimal, and it has to be very economical. But he's got Billy trapped in such a place that every angle that he tries to turn further compacts what he's doing, where he is. Pushes him into some very, very extreme directions. So for writing, for me that's exciting and very fulfilling to be around. And then, as it kind of sticks with you when you wake up in the morning two weeks later, and you're having (unintelligible ) about the conversations that your characters were having, and suddenly they're absolutely relevant to what you're going through, in that instant it goes back to what Josh was saying. You know, we're here to tell stories. But we're here to tell the truth, and share something. There's an oracle aspect to it. So I don't know if that answers the question, but...

D: Yeah. I'm sure it does. Rachel, did you want to add anything to that? I didn't know if you were starting to say something or not...

R: Oh, no, no, no.

D: Okay. And then another question for Harold. Gale Harold. It says, would you mind asking Gale if he does anything else art-related, like painting or sketching, or anything within the arts?

R: (giggles)

Gale: If I do related, what? Sorry?

D: Art related? Like anything, like she was talking about painting, sketching, anything like that, art-related?

G: Um, I burn books.

D: (Laughs)

R: (Laughs)

Gale: No, no, I don't. Um, I, uh, I studied photography and (unintelligible) and spent a lot of time etching and screen-printing. I don't do that anymore. Um...

R: Paper airplanes.

D: Paper airplanes...

R: Yeah.

Gale: Paper airplanes laced with razor blades, thrown off small buildings.

(Others laugh)

Gale: No. Uh, yeah, I'm a fan. I'm an observer of traditional and not-so-human style art. And I won't tell you what that is, but, uh, I don't create too much, besides trying to be, uh, a somewhat convincing performer at the moment.

D: Yeah. Just to give the audience, you know, how this interview came about. I recently thought I'd pull out my Queer as Folk box set, and I watched the whole five seasons right back to back. And I literally just finished watching the finale just a few minutes before the show. And I've been on the air for two years, and I thought, why, I've had all kinds of celebrities on. Why don't I go reach out and see what the cast of Queer as Folk is up to? So, for fans that are listening, I do know that we Gale today. Um, I've got two reunion shows coming up. One, with, uh, Michelle and Thea, who played Melanie and Lindsay. That's going to be coming up this month. And also with Scott and Peter, who played Emmett and Ted. So, for all you Queer as Folk fans, you be sure to tune into "OnAirWithDouglas.com" for those of you who are out there that are fans. Um, before we end, I just wanted to definitely tell you, Gale, that, you are part of one of the best television shows of all times. You know, that was such a groundbreaking ahead of itself; that was over thirteen years ago when it started. And you know that film, that show now, I wonder what it would have been like now with social media and with the way that the LGBT community have moved on to having, what? Like 14 states now allow it. I mean, things are so different now than they were back in 2000. Um, so I just want to tell you that I'm so glad that you were a part of such a groundbreaking show, and, uh, that you entered all of our lives, you know, every week on that show. And I didn't realize until social media, uh, you know, bringing up this show today, obsessed the fans are. They still are, all these years later. They're still watching it. There's fan fiction going on about what happened after the show. I mean, I didn't realize all this existed out there. So, what's it been like for you? I'm sure you get stalked or you get noticed a lot? How is that community been like to you?

Gale: Um. Well, first of all, thank you for those kind words. And I'm glad you're going to be speaking to some of the other people that were involved. Um, it was intense, initially. Um, I was really inspired by the original show Russell T. Davis had made and Aiden Gillen's performance that my character was based on. And I never really thought that it would be possible to do something like that in the United States. Um, but we did accomplish something, I think, and for the duration of while we were making it I kind of went in and out of being able to even understand what was going on, because it took its own, it took it on its own life. And, uh, I think I should have known that - and I was very, very nervous about representing other people's existence, and their lives and going so deep into a place where a lot of people had suffered, had suffered a lot. Died, been beaten, hurt. Uh, had to deal with a legal system where it's not very kind to them. And you can look at Russia right now, and see it in its extreme. Um, so a lot of people that, I think, connected to what we were trying to do relieved on some level to be able to see themselves presented as a valid part of life as it is. And it's sort of unusual to have to say that, because we're all human beings, and we all deserve to live, and to live the way that we want to live, regardless of what anyone else thinks about what we feel life is. But I never personally experienced that intensity as a kid growing up. I had through my friends, but not directed personally. And so, without making this an epic answer, um, it took me some time after the show was over to really be able to, I mean, take a step back and begin to really be proud of what we had done. You know?

D: Uh, hum.

G: As the intensity of the response was a little bit, uh, discombobulating, you know?

D: Yeah

Gale: It was euphoric and it was incredibly fun. And really challenging. And the relationships that I made with people that I was working with are some of the most important relationships of my life, and will be until the day I die. But it was hard to put it into perspective for me. You know? And I'm, like, probably grappling with 30% of the intensity that some of the other actors that worked with, that we were working with, what they were going through. So I think that, you know, kind of to answer your question, this response and the impact that it's had on people is a result of people being able to see a version of their own life, or a mirror for the things that they were going through that, for better or worse, wasn't allowed to be acknowledged. And sometimes we got it right and sometimes we got it wrong. But, I think for the (unintelligible), and I'm very happy that we were able to, you know, gratify some people's ideas, maybe? To encourage them, to inspire them? If it makes them angry, angry at us or the ideas that we were trying to put across because, you know as an actor you're just telling a story under another person. And that project, specifically, I was trying tell things for people that were fast and varied, some of which I could relate to and some of which I couldn't. And, um, I'm just glad that we were able to make it through, and that it has sustained some of that original energy.

D: Yes, it sure has.

Gale: Hopefully, yeah.

D: Like I said, I literally just finished the series finale, and I only saw that series finale the day it aired. Watching it all these years later for the first time, it's like, really like watching it for the first time, 'cause it's been so long. And that final scene was with you, just dancing all by yourself, and I've got to tell you. I was just bawling, like I was just crying. It was like I had forgotten the intensity of that relationship between Brian and Justin. So, uh, it was such a , you did such a great job. So I'm very, I just wanted to throw that out there. Uh, I'm sure you get that a lot, but I just wanted as a fan myself just, you did just a great job. And I've also followed your other films since then, and with Thirst; you know, you're such a diverse actor that you can do it all. And, one more question before we get back to Thirst from somebody. Dave wants to ask you what it was like working on Desperate Housewives? I'm thirsty for the answer. It's Thirsty Thursday.

R: (Laughs)

Gale: Um, it was fun. It was really fun. It was a completely different world for me to be in, and, um, and that was, in an odd way, one of the most unusual things I'd done, because it was a format and a style that I wasn't used to. Um, I can tell you that the first time that I saw Kyle MacLachlan I almost lost my mind, because Blue Velvet destroyed my brain in the best of ways. I saw that and (intelligible), and I couldn't believe that I was in the same room, and we were talking to each other as real people. And then we were playing (intelligible), and my knees were knocking. So when I think of Desperate Housewives, that's the thing that I always think about first.

J: That's cool; that's really cool.

D: That's awesome. Uh, Rachel, go ahead.

R: Uh, I was just going to comment on, uh, Douglas, you were saying, just touching on Queer as Folk and the fans, we've really been so humbled by Gale's fan base all over the world. And his such devoted fans, and it's for a good reason. I mean, he's a super, super talented actor, and all our actors were so giving of themselves and really just went to all lengths to play the roles and bring so much to their characters. You know, these characters just evolved in front of our eyes on set. They became so much more than how they were even written. And so we're very thankful for that. For all of Gale's fans, and Josh's fans, and Melanie's fans, everyone that's just been backing our little 'passion project.'

D: Yeah, you've got quite a crew there. It's going to be, I mean, once it hits the circuit, you know, the festival circuit, you're going to be getting I guarantee you awards and everything's going to be coming your way. I mean, without seeing it, just by the energy around it, and with just from speaking with each of you, it's going to be big. Now with some short films, this is just foreshadowing, some short films, I watched one called "Dare" at one time. It was a fifteen-minute short film, and it ended up becoming a full movie. Is that something that you could do in the future, perhaps?

R: It is definitely something that we have talked about. Michael, the writer and I, have definitely thrown around the idea. We have another, future film in development that we have been working on, but we've gotten so, so involved in Thirst and really consumed by it that it's definitely something that's on our radar and that we're considering putting into a feature-length script.

D: Well, Gale, the same question to you. Besides Thirst, is there anything we can look forward to, you know, any new projects you're working on in film or anything else due out in 2014 so far?

Gale: Uh, I'm just beginning rehearsing a film that's, um, I'm going to begin working on in the next week. I'm playing - well, I can't give it away - but sort of playing kind of a jive-talking, shit-stirring disciple of Satan.
(Laughing in background)

Gale: And, uh, the film is somewhat based off the myth of the Angel and the Devil. They sit on one shoulder. That's why I'm a parrot. (Unintelligible). And they're attempting to influence a young girl to do what they believe is the right thing that she should do under the circumstances. And it's sort of a play on morality versus right and wrong. It's sort of an anti-morality tale. That's kind of what I'm doing at the moment. And there's a film that I was in, that will be coming out this year. I'm not sure when The Field of Lost Shoes - it's an historical period piece about the Civil War - and I got to work with one of my heroes, Jason Isaacs. And, um, it's a tragic and compelling bit of our country's history that's not the most comfortable thing to get historically what was going on, but I was tickled pink to work with him, and hopefully I didn't destroy Irish dialect. And, uh...

D: Go ahead.

Gale: Uh, no, that's all I have to say about that.

D: When you were talking about that other film, when you said the devil and the disciple or something, it just gave me flashbacks to when you were in Gray's Anatomy. You had that swastika on you, you had that swastika in you in those two episodes. And that was intense. It was an amazing work there. Very intense. I mean, it was probably a very intense role to play itself; it was intense to watch, too.

Gale: Yes, it was intense to have a swastika on your chest. Having that as big as a dinner plate on your chest doesn’t make you feel good about yourself, but you have to be that person, right?

D: Yeah, exactly. And I definitely want to tell you that even though the Secret Circle did not come back for a second season, that was another phenomenal show. And you were excellent in that. I have it on DVD, and on Netflix I watch it all the time.

Rachel, I want to thank you so much for bringing this together. And thank your assistant as well.

R: Thank you so much, Doug, for having us on and for the support.

D: And Gale, I want to thank you, too. I'm glad that you're the first of the, uh, QAF guests I'm going to have on my show. I'm really excited about getting everybody together again, and just seeing where they are now. I just wanted to say, uh, Gale, looking at QAF is in the back now, what do you think Brian Kinney is doing right now? Where's he at right now in life? What do you think?

Gale: Oh, uh, I think he's either way, way, down, or way, way up, but nowhere in the middle. And, um, I'm hoping he's way, way up, but I have a sneaking suspicion that he might be way, way down.

D: Yeah. Uh, that's interesting, because you know as I said there's a lot of fan fiction out there, and people have taken the show, and taken it to a whole new level of their own imagination that's it interesting. You know, and I'm sure you've been asked this a million times. Has there ever been talk about a reunion movie, or a (intelligible) to get the cast together again?

Gale: Uh, I don't think there's been anything necessarily official that I've heard. Scott Lowell and I have batted around ideas here and there and, you know, with some pretty good theories, but, um, I think it's more just hindsight, and loving the time that we were there and missing working with the people that we worked with, and we all kind of fell in love with our characters and, yeah, I would like to see how Kinney is, and, um, I think we all would like to see where that world is, you know? I wanna find out what's going on with Debbie.

D: (Laughs)

Gale: Who knows, you know?

D: Yeah, she was something else. I bet working with Sharon was just a hoot, 'cause she was just, she's the mom we all want. We'd all love to have a mom, I don't know, she was a little overbearing, but she was the mom we, coming out at a young age, we all want that kind of acceptance and love from our parents. She did a great job.

Gale: Kind of like the mother that would wrap you up in their arms and give you a hug and then kick your ass, but then if anyone got near you she would kick their ass twice as hard.

D: (Laughs) And I'm going to end with this one, Gale. People are asking 'Please get on Twitter more often. (Laughs) It's like they miss you on Twitter, so...I just wanted to relay that message to you.

R: That's funny, because Gale and I met on Twitter. That's so strange.

J: Did you really?

R: (laughs)

D: Now, Rachel, were you a fan of Gale's? Before, had you met him before? Or how did that happen?

R: No, I had not met Gale before. We dated briefly, um, but it was all online. So we hadn't met in person and yes; no, I had not met Gale, I had heard wonderful things through about Gale one of our executive producers and through Michael, and then I met Gale once we started getting Thirst off the ground and attached him to the project, so, um...First time to work with Gale, but hopefully not the last.

Gale: That's right.

D: Well, thank you all very much for being here. I'll let you all go, and I'd love to have you guys back individually or all together when the film is ready to be out, and help some even more. So we'll keep in touch.

Gale: Thank you very much, everyone, that's out there and helping us. We really, really appreciate it. It means so much. You can't...there's no way we can...so...

D: You're welcome. On behalf of everyone listening, you're welcome.

Gale: Bye Josh, bye, Rachel, bye, Doug. Bye.

D: All right, here's a little something for you guys, if it will play? Where's it at? (Original QAF Theme begins to play). There we go... Hope everyone enjoyed our chat today.

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